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		<title>By: T. C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting because I&#039;ve been thinking about this the last couple of days as I begin rereading a manga I adored as a teen. My library is also hosting a book discussion and one question will be about the difference you see if you read the title as a teen and then as an adult. 

It has been discussed somewhat in the YA realm, although less by librarians and more by readers (teen and adult). My mom pointed some blog posts out to me about the fact how teen readers and adult readers interpret books differently mainly from the romance aspect (TWILIGHT and HUSH, HUSH). I think this something that is coming into our librarian minds right now.

I also find it to be a true issue in graphic novels. Case and point is the Printz winner AMERICAN BORN CHINESE. It is a GREAT graphic novel and I can see why it won, but in the last few years, this book has not circulated. In fact, I doubt teens are even interested in this book. Don&#039;t get me wrong. I liked the book, I liked the message, and I like what he writes, but it doesn&#039;t appeal to teens (I didn&#039;t read it until I was an adult). In my last library and in my current library, this book has made it to my weeding list (no circs in two years). I also take a look over the Great Graphic Novel lists every year and am disappointed in the titles that made the cut and those that didn&#039;t. Often, I find there is a huge disconnect between what librarians think are good for teens and what teens think are good for teens. The latest list was still a 50/50 (teens will/teens won&#039;t like it) This is certainly something that needs to be looked into and discussed further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting because I&#8217;ve been thinking about this the last couple of days as I begin rereading a manga I adored as a teen. My library is also hosting a book discussion and one question will be about the difference you see if you read the title as a teen and then as an adult. </p>
<p>It has been discussed somewhat in the YA realm, although less by librarians and more by readers (teen and adult). My mom pointed some blog posts out to me about the fact how teen readers and adult readers interpret books differently mainly from the romance aspect (TWILIGHT and HUSH, HUSH). I think this something that is coming into our librarian minds right now.</p>
<p>I also find it to be a true issue in graphic novels. Case and point is the Printz winner AMERICAN BORN CHINESE. It is a GREAT graphic novel and I can see why it won, but in the last few years, this book has not circulated. In fact, I doubt teens are even interested in this book. Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I liked the book, I liked the message, and I like what he writes, but it doesn&#8217;t appeal to teens (I didn&#8217;t read it until I was an adult). In my last library and in my current library, this book has made it to my weeding list (no circs in two years). I also take a look over the Great Graphic Novel lists every year and am disappointed in the titles that made the cut and those that didn&#8217;t. Often, I find there is a huge disconnect between what librarians think are good for teens and what teens think are good for teens. The latest list was still a 50/50 (teens will/teens won&#8217;t like it) This is certainly something that needs to be looked into and discussed further.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2011/08/27/phasing-the-gatekeepers/#comment-271833</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Lisa, I hope that committee members wouldn&#039;t go too far into trying to parse elements like those you mentioned in terms of how a child reader would interpret them, because there&#039;s a danger of going too far in that direction. There is no single type of child reader just like there&#039;s no single type of adult reader, and your reaction to Doug&#039;s Broadway debut or his dad&#039;s turnaround depends on how you read the book as a whole. Reading it as straight realism might lead you to raise an eyebrow at those scenes, like the Thing About the Next-Door Neighbor in The Penderwicks at Point Mouette, but reading it as a notch below magical realism lifts some of the weight of expectation. Another great MG book from this year, Uma Krishnaswami&#039;s The Grand Plan to Fix Everything, hinges on a series of coincidences that are modelled on the crazy plot twists of Bollywood films, so the &quot;unlikeliness&quot; is completely intentional.

A child reader, who might have the view that adult behavior is often unpredictable, might not think twice about the believability of Doug&#039;s dad&#039;s behavior, because at that point they&#039;re probably much more invested in Doug&#039;s own story.

The question to my mind is, is the plot believable (does it fit?) given the world that the author has created for it? In the case of Okay for Now, I see one path going upwards, in which so many things that seem unlikely are going Doug&#039;s way, and one downwards in which his father&#039;s behavior gets worse and worse, and the turnaround is where those meet. By the time it happens, is the reader willing to take it in stride, like so many recovered Audubon prints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Lisa, I hope that committee members wouldn&#8217;t go too far into trying to parse elements like those you mentioned in terms of how a child reader would interpret them, because there&#8217;s a danger of going too far in that direction. There is no single type of child reader just like there&#8217;s no single type of adult reader, and your reaction to Doug&#8217;s Broadway debut or his dad&#8217;s turnaround depends on how you read the book as a whole. Reading it as straight realism might lead you to raise an eyebrow at those scenes, like the Thing About the Next-Door Neighbor in The Penderwicks at Point Mouette, but reading it as a notch below magical realism lifts some of the weight of expectation. Another great MG book from this year, Uma Krishnaswami&#8217;s The Grand Plan to Fix Everything, hinges on a series of coincidences that are modelled on the crazy plot twists of Bollywood films, so the &#8220;unlikeliness&#8221; is completely intentional.</p>
<p>A child reader, who might have the view that adult behavior is often unpredictable, might not think twice about the believability of Doug&#8217;s dad&#8217;s behavior, because at that point they&#8217;re probably much more invested in Doug&#8217;s own story.</p>
<p>The question to my mind is, is the plot believable (does it fit?) given the world that the author has created for it? In the case of Okay for Now, I see one path going upwards, in which so many things that seem unlikely are going Doug&#8217;s way, and one downwards in which his father&#8217;s behavior gets worse and worse, and the turnaround is where those meet. By the time it happens, is the reader willing to take it in stride, like so many recovered Audubon prints?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Jenn Bigelow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2011/08/27/phasing-the-gatekeepers/#comment-271600</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Jenn Bigelow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... to me, this feels like another facet of the discussion of the Newbery and &quot;kid appeal.&quot; Just as the rules don&#039;t require Newbery winners to jump off the shelves, they don&#039;t require a particular interpretation based on age, experience, or anything else. It&#039;s what the committee decides is the &quot;most distinguished&quot; American book published for kids, period, and I don&#039;t see that the committee members have to put themselves into the mindset of a ten-year-old -- in terms of appeal, interpretation, or anything else -- to make that decision.

And isn&#039;t one of the great things about any type of art that our interpretation of a piece changes over time? I love to reread, and I&#039;m always finding &quot;new&quot; things in the words, depending what&#039;s going on in my life. The most dramatic personal example I can think of is Zilpha Keatley Snyder&#039;s THE WITCHES OF WORM. As a child, I believed the cat in the book was magic. As an adult, I have a completely different interpretation -- one that makes the book much stronger, and which is probably closer to what Snyder intended. But I still enjoyed it as a child, and it made enough of an impression on me that I remember it years later... so where&#039;s the problem?

Arguably the best books are the ones that *can* be appreciated on multiple levels. And if kids are are missing the subtleties you&#039;re discussing here, perhaps it&#039;s not a &quot;flaw&quot; so much as an entry point for discussion. That goes for adults and adult books as well. Some books require more synthesis than others to fully appreciate them.

To my mind, what would be &quot;wrong&quot; is a book in which there is no ambiguity, no room for (mis)interpretation, no place for readers to insert themselves into the story and experience it their own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; to me, this feels like another facet of the discussion of the Newbery and &#8220;kid appeal.&#8221; Just as the rules don&#8217;t require Newbery winners to jump off the shelves, they don&#8217;t require a particular interpretation based on age, experience, or anything else. It&#8217;s what the committee decides is the &#8220;most distinguished&#8221; American book published for kids, period, and I don&#8217;t see that the committee members have to put themselves into the mindset of a ten-year-old &#8212; in terms of appeal, interpretation, or anything else &#8212; to make that decision.</p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t one of the great things about any type of art that our interpretation of a piece changes over time? I love to reread, and I&#8217;m always finding &#8220;new&#8221; things in the words, depending what&#8217;s going on in my life. The most dramatic personal example I can think of is Zilpha Keatley Snyder&#8217;s THE WITCHES OF WORM. As a child, I believed the cat in the book was magic. As an adult, I have a completely different interpretation &#8212; one that makes the book much stronger, and which is probably closer to what Snyder intended. But I still enjoyed it as a child, and it made enough of an impression on me that I remember it years later&#8230; so where&#8217;s the problem?</p>
<p>Arguably the best books are the ones that *can* be appreciated on multiple levels. And if kids are are missing the subtleties you&#8217;re discussing here, perhaps it&#8217;s not a &#8220;flaw&#8221; so much as an entry point for discussion. That goes for adults and adult books as well. Some books require more synthesis than others to fully appreciate them.</p>
<p>To my mind, what would be &#8220;wrong&#8221; is a book in which there is no ambiguity, no room for (mis)interpretation, no place for readers to insert themselves into the story and experience it their own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Bird</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2011/08/27/phasing-the-gatekeepers/#comment-271545</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy, teen literature is a whole different bag of fish, isn&#039;t it?  You&#039;re right, I was only looking at this from a kid perspective but missed intentions have probably been discussed in the YA realm ad nauseum for years, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy, teen literature is a whole different bag of fish, isn&#8217;t it?  You&#8217;re right, I was only looking at this from a kid perspective but missed intentions have probably been discussed in the YA realm ad nauseum for years, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Auxier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2011/08/27/phasing-the-gatekeepers/#comment-271374</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Auxier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is like an inverted version of my longstanding objection to CATCHER IN THE RYE.  To an adult reader, Holden is selfish, short-sighted, and generally insufferable ... meaning the only good reading is one where we assume the author is subverting his main character. This fact, however, seems to be lost on most younger readers, who assume Holden is some kind of exemplar to be emulated. Whenever I meet a high schooler who tells me they love CATCHER, I suspect they&#039;ve read the wrong book. (This is also my objection to ROMEO &amp; JULIET.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like an inverted version of my longstanding objection to CATCHER IN THE RYE.  To an adult reader, Holden is selfish, short-sighted, and generally insufferable &#8230; meaning the only good reading is one where we assume the author is subverting his main character. This fact, however, seems to be lost on most younger readers, who assume Holden is some kind of exemplar to be emulated. Whenever I meet a high schooler who tells me they love CATCHER, I suspect they&#8217;ve read the wrong book. (This is also my objection to ROMEO &amp; JULIET.)</p>
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