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	<title>Comments on: Stitches</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judith, I think you are taking my tone too seriously.  If I didn&#039;t find them well argued, considered pieces then I wouldn&#039;t have linked to them to provide effective counterpoint to my own opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith, I think you are taking my tone too seriously.  If I didn&#8217;t find them well argued, considered pieces then I wouldn&#8217;t have linked to them to provide effective counterpoint to my own opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Misrule</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2860</link>
		<dc:creator>Misrule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you call whining and whinging are actually very well argued, considered pieces addressing the issues around the nomination of a clearly adult title (with YA appeal) in this category. You can disagree with their position, but don&#039;t misrepresent their tone to shore up yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you call whining and whinging are actually very well argued, considered pieces addressing the issues around the nomination of a clearly adult title (with YA appeal) in this category. You can disagree with their position, but don&#8217;t misrepresent their tone to shore up yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2861</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that was in question, was it, Jonathan?  As you and Peter point out, it&#039;s happened before.  But you seem to expect dissent...

Who a book is published for is such a chancy thing.  A Wrinkle in Time might have been an adult book, after all (and probably dropped into semi-oblivion). I don&#039;t see any need to disqualify books outright if they&#039;re really speaking to children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that was in question, was it, Jonathan?  As you and Peter point out, it&#8217;s happened before.  But you seem to expect dissent&#8230;</p>
<p>Who a book is published for is such a chancy thing.  A Wrinkle in Time might have been an adult book, after all (and probably dropped into semi-oblivion). I don&#8217;t see any need to disqualify books outright if they&#8217;re really speaking to children.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2862</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooke, yes, but whether you go with ISLAND or MOCKINGBIRD, though, the other one is still markedly better than the honor books from that year.  Likewise with the choice between RED FERN and BRONZE BOW the following year.

Wendy, we may disagree about TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (or STITCHES or whatever), but you have left the main point of my argument unchallenged, namely that there are books that are published for adults that would be perfectly suitable for a child audience--and that these books are eligible for the Newbery.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooke, yes, but whether you go with ISLAND or MOCKINGBIRD, though, the other one is still markedly better than the honor books from that year.  Likewise with the choice between RED FERN and BRONZE BOW the following year.</p>
<p>Wendy, we may disagree about TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (or STITCHES or whatever), but you have left the main point of my argument unchallenged, namely that there are books that are published for adults that would be perfectly suitable for a child audience&#8211;and that these books are eligible for the Newbery.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all, Jonathan.  High schoolers read plenty of adult books in school and out, which I don&#039;t consider inappropriate; but the Newbery criteria specify &quot;excellence of presentation for children&quot;, and I hold that TKAM is not presented for children.  (Also, I haven&#039;t conducted any kind of survey, but I think 15-17 is more common than 14.)

I mean, that&#039;s like saying The Odyssey should have won the 799 BC Newbery Medal because we read it my freshman year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all, Jonathan.  High schoolers read plenty of adult books in school and out, which I don&#8217;t consider inappropriate; but the Newbery criteria specify &#8220;excellence of presentation for children&#8221;, and I hold that TKAM is not presented for children.  (Also, I haven&#8217;t conducted any kind of survey, but I think 15-17 is more common than 14.)</p>
<p>I mean, that&#8217;s like saying The Odyssey should have won the 799 BC Newbery Medal because we read it my freshman year.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the question is, was &lt;i&gt;To Kill a Mockingbird&lt;/i&gt; a more distinguished contribution to literature for children than &lt;i&gt;Island of the Blue Dolphins&lt;/i&gt;, which was awarded the 1961 Newbery?  I think it&#039;s a tough call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the question is, was <i>To Kill a Mockingbird</i> a more distinguished contribution to literature for children than <i>Island of the Blue Dolphins</i>, which was awarded the 1961 Newbery?  I think it&#8217;s a tough call.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tricia, sometimes the public knows the judges up front; sometimes they are kept private until the finalists are announced.  It seems to vary from year to year, but this year the judges were listed on the website from the get-go.  I assume the publishers have always been privy to the identity of the judges, regardless of whether the public knows.

I don&#039;t know if you are familiar with adult nonfiction, Tricia, but they all look like big fat Harry Potter books--and there were 481 submitted.  Now every year the YPL judges proudly state that they read all the books; nobody ever makes that claim for Nonfiction because it&#039;s a physical impossibility.  Had STITCHES been submitted for Nonfiction, the judges (not knowing that David Small is a superstar talent) might not even have read the book, even with a divide and conquer strategy.  With the YPL judges, I would expect that at the very least Gene Yang and Kathi Appelt would read it, so friendly in this case doesn&#039;t mean biased, but rather open to this outside-the-box choice.  I don&#039;t know that Yang or Appelt even know Small personally so I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a nepotism thing.

Wendy, so if TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD is inappropriate for the Newbery Medal, then isn&#039;t it also inappropriate that it is required reading for nearly every 14-year-old in this country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tricia, sometimes the public knows the judges up front; sometimes they are kept private until the finalists are announced.  It seems to vary from year to year, but this year the judges were listed on the website from the get-go.  I assume the publishers have always been privy to the identity of the judges, regardless of whether the public knows.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you are familiar with adult nonfiction, Tricia, but they all look like big fat Harry Potter books&#8211;and there were 481 submitted.  Now every year the YPL judges proudly state that they read all the books; nobody ever makes that claim for Nonfiction because it&#8217;s a physical impossibility.  Had STITCHES been submitted for Nonfiction, the judges (not knowing that David Small is a superstar talent) might not even have read the book, even with a divide and conquer strategy.  With the YPL judges, I would expect that at the very least Gene Yang and Kathi Appelt would read it, so friendly in this case doesn&#8217;t mean biased, but rather open to this outside-the-box choice.  I don&#8217;t know that Yang or Appelt even know Small personally so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a nepotism thing.</p>
<p>Wendy, so if TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD is inappropriate for the Newbery Medal, then isn&#8217;t it also inappropriate that it is required reading for nearly every 14-year-old in this country?</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, The Story of Mankind is an adult book?  I sort of remember times when Van Loon specifically addressed a child audience, though I haven&#039;t got the book in front of me.  

(And no, I DON&#039;T think To Kill a Mockingbird would have been a good Newbery choice; it crosses to young adult, and I think would likely have been published as such today, but is adult in its handling of its themes and characters.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, The Story of Mankind is an adult book?  I sort of remember times when Van Loon specifically addressed a child audience, though I haven&#8217;t got the book in front of me.  </p>
<p>(And no, I DON&#8217;T think To Kill a Mockingbird would have been a good Newbery choice; it crosses to young adult, and I think would likely have been published as such today, but is adult in its handling of its themes and characters.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasons (a) and (b) bother me a bit. Are you saying that folks know in advance who the judges are? This seems like a very bad idea. Are you saying that simply working in the same genre or having a previous association with an author/illustrator means a judge is biased? (You say friendly, but I read this to mean you feel there is some loss of objectivity here.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons (a) and (b) bother me a bit. Are you saying that folks know in advance who the judges are? This seems like a very bad idea. Are you saying that simply working in the same genre or having a previous association with an author/illustrator means a judge is biased? (You say friendly, but I read this to mean you feel there is some loss of objectivity here.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2009/10/16/stitches-2/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!  I expect a full report on the next Sunday Brunch.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  I expect a full report on the next Sunday Brunch.  <img src='http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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