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		<title>By: more mock awards &#171; garish &#38; tweed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2010/11/02/shortlist-and-discussion-details-announced/#comment-9699</link>
		<dc:creator>more mock awards &#171; garish &#38; tweed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nina Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2010/11/02/shortlist-and-discussion-details-announced/#comment-9443</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and being a huge library, it gets hard to stay on top of getting certain things through fast.  Believe me, we&#039;re always trying. I could lay out our whole order process by way of excuse, but I think that&#039;s getting off topic.  Things slip through, and it&#039;s simply a huge challenge for libraries to have stuff shelf-read on the sale lay-out date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and being a huge library, it gets hard to stay on top of getting certain things through fast.  Believe me, we&#8217;re always trying. I could lay out our whole order process by way of excuse, but I think that&#8217;s getting off topic.  Things slip through, and it&#8217;s simply a huge challenge for libraries to have stuff shelf-read on the sale lay-out date.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2010/11/02/shortlist-and-discussion-details-announced/#comment-9324</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nina, I totally get that it can take a while to get books ordered, processed, and ready to check out.  Every month I read reviews and realize I missed something!  That said, I order juvenile fiction for my library and I do try to order as many books as possible the month they&#039;re published (I do monthly orders, too).  And since we&#039;re a smallish library, if a box arrives, I can unpack it and get things moving the same day if there are lots of holds (I just did that with Diary of a Wimpy Kid).  Otherwise it might take a few days or a week to get something ready to check out.  I was just pointing out that 2-5 of our 13 libraries HAD managed to order in advance or quickly on those titles.  The Kneebone Boy had a bunch of reviews in Sept., KKK in July and August, and Dark Emperor as early as June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina, I totally get that it can take a while to get books ordered, processed, and ready to check out.  Every month I read reviews and realize I missed something!  That said, I order juvenile fiction for my library and I do try to order as many books as possible the month they&#8217;re published (I do monthly orders, too).  And since we&#8217;re a smallish library, if a box arrives, I can unpack it and get things moving the same day if there are lots of holds (I just did that with Diary of a Wimpy Kid).  Otherwise it might take a few days or a week to get something ready to check out.  I was just pointing out that 2-5 of our 13 libraries HAD managed to order in advance or quickly on those titles.  The Kneebone Boy had a bunch of reviews in Sept., KKK in July and August, and Dark Emperor as early as June.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Coombs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2010/11/02/shortlist-and-discussion-details-announced/#comment-8882</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Coombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice list, especially A CONSPIRACY OF KINGS, but my addition would be Laura Amy Schlitz&#039;s THE NIGHT FAIRY--one of the most beautifully crafted books I&#039;ve read in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice list, especially A CONSPIRACY OF KINGS, but my addition would be Laura Amy Schlitz&#8217;s THE NIGHT FAIRY&#8211;one of the most beautifully crafted books I&#8217;ve read in years.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jess, what usually happens with library ordering--and is exacerbated at this time of year when publishing is plentiful and we&#039;re all looking for it as it comes out--is there&#039;s a couple month&#039;s lag between the bookstore floor date and the date you can get a library copy.  If it&#039;s something on our radar for advance order, we&#039;ll receive it as soon as it&#039;s available for sale, but it still takes a few weeks for us to get our shipments unpacked, invoiced, and the books cataloged and processed (if there&#039;s a hold on the book, we do find that out as soon as it comes out of the box and it speeds through in a few days).  But more often: we order based on reviews. We see the review right around the on-sale date, sometimes a little before, sometimes a little after.  So we put it on our next order list...which may not go out for several weeks, since we just submit orders once a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jess, what usually happens with library ordering&#8211;and is exacerbated at this time of year when publishing is plentiful and we&#8217;re all looking for it as it comes out&#8211;is there&#8217;s a couple month&#8217;s lag between the bookstore floor date and the date you can get a library copy.  If it&#8217;s something on our radar for advance order, we&#8217;ll receive it as soon as it&#8217;s available for sale, but it still takes a few weeks for us to get our shipments unpacked, invoiced, and the books cataloged and processed (if there&#8217;s a hold on the book, we do find that out as soon as it comes out of the box and it speeds through in a few days).  But more often: we order based on reviews. We see the review right around the on-sale date, sometimes a little before, sometimes a little after.  So we put it on our next order list&#8230;which may not go out for several weeks, since we just submit orders once a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Blakeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Cecilia, I read Secret of the Andes as a 6th grader and loved it.  And I was definitely a reluctant reader.  I mentioned some strengths of Turtle in Paradise elsewhere on this blog.  If I wanted to mention a slight weakness, it would be the pirate treasure part of the plot, although I think this has some grounding laid in the characters and it becomes important in moving toward the finale.  I am more likely to support One Crazy Summer and Keeper at this point, but it is one of a cluster I am eager to hear more discussion about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Cecilia, I read Secret of the Andes as a 6th grader and loved it.  And I was definitely a reluctant reader.  I mentioned some strengths of Turtle in Paradise elsewhere on this blog.  If I wanted to mention a slight weakness, it would be the pirate treasure part of the plot, although I think this has some grounding laid in the characters and it becomes important in moving toward the finale.  I am more likely to support One Crazy Summer and Keeper at this point, but it is one of a cluster I am eager to hear more discussion about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dreamer, KKK, and One Crazy Summer are the only overlap between your shortlist and the list for the Mock Newbery I&#039;m attending - I love seeing a variety of shortlists!

In response to the comments about libraries not yet owning KKK, Dark Emperor, or The Kneebone Boy - I&#039;m a little shocked that a large system (28 libraries) wouldn&#039;t have at one copy of each of these.  I&#039;m in a 13-library system, most of them small libraries, and we&#039;ve got between 2 and 5 copies of each of those (we don&#039;t order centrally).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dreamer, KKK, and One Crazy Summer are the only overlap between your shortlist and the list for the Mock Newbery I&#8217;m attending &#8211; I love seeing a variety of shortlists!</p>
<p>In response to the comments about libraries not yet owning KKK, Dark Emperor, or The Kneebone Boy &#8211; I&#8217;m a little shocked that a large system (28 libraries) wouldn&#8217;t have at one copy of each of these.  I&#8217;m in a 13-library system, most of them small libraries, and we&#8217;ve got between 2 and 5 copies of each of those (we don&#8217;t order centrally).</p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Jennifer Holm, but I was disappointed with Turtle in Paradise. It was funny, and had interesting characters but it didn&#039;t stick with me the way some other books this year have. And I always have to laugh at this time of year, because I think I am the ONLY person who read Secret of the Andes as a third grader and loved it. Ever since, I have wanted to travel to South America and explore the ruins of the Inca civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Jennifer Holm, but I was disappointed with Turtle in Paradise. It was funny, and had interesting characters but it didn&#8217;t stick with me the way some other books this year have. And I always have to laugh at this time of year, because I think I am the ONLY person who read Secret of the Andes as a third grader and loved it. Ever since, I have wanted to travel to South America and explore the ruins of the Inca civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Edinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Edinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan controversial?  Pshaw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan controversial?  Pshaw!</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Mr. H, you&#039;ve shown a couple of times here, by your own admission, that you aren&#039;t particularly familiar with the Newbery Terms and Criteria--just as Jonathan said. While I, too, find it frustrating (and I&#039;m not picking on you, there are several instances of that here, and every year), I thought part of the purpose of the blog was to get people familiar with the criteria. I certainly wasn&#039;t born knowing them either.

I think you&#039;re missing the point with your fourth paragraph. Whether Turtle in Paradise is distinguished as a novel aimed at 3-6th graders is exactly the point Jonathan is addressing. I do think it can be a challenge to judge a less-sophisticated book against a more-sophisticated book, but if this wasn&#039;t challenging--well, it would be easy. The biggest step is to be aware that that&#039;s what you have to do, I think--apples and oranges, etc.

Jonathan, I&#039;m uncomfortable with how often we&#039;ve been on the same page this year and would rather you stirred up some controversy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Mr. H, you&#8217;ve shown a couple of times here, by your own admission, that you aren&#8217;t particularly familiar with the Newbery Terms and Criteria&#8211;just as Jonathan said. While I, too, find it frustrating (and I&#8217;m not picking on you, there are several instances of that here, and every year), I thought part of the purpose of the blog was to get people familiar with the criteria. I certainly wasn&#8217;t born knowing them either.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point with your fourth paragraph. Whether Turtle in Paradise is distinguished as a novel aimed at 3-6th graders is exactly the point Jonathan is addressing. I do think it can be a challenge to judge a less-sophisticated book against a more-sophisticated book, but if this wasn&#8217;t challenging&#8211;well, it would be easy. The biggest step is to be aware that that&#8217;s what you have to do, I think&#8211;apples and oranges, etc.</p>
<p>Jonathan, I&#8217;m uncomfortable with how often we&#8217;ve been on the same page this year and would rather you stirred up some controversy.</p>
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