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		<title>By: TimSYV</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104511</link>
		<dc:creator>TimSYV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all will not be completely shocked if L&amp;S earns an Honor Award, but I think we all will be surprised if L&amp;S wins the Medal. I loved this book, but medal-winning WYRM was definitely on a higher plane than this one.

And yes, L&amp;S has a twist (two, in fact), which makes this book all the more potently affective (yes, with an &quot;a&quot;). The best character in the book was Safer...he provided the most laughs, and he &quot;plays&quot; the spy &quot;game&quot; so much better than Georges that we literally believe him (as does Georges), thus setting us up for Twist #1.

Twist #2 (mom in hospital) is so reminiscent of Bruce Willis&#039;s Sixth Sense: You think you understood what you just read (or watched) throughout the whole story, but now you have to go back though it all and re-experience it in an entirely different light to understand what was actually going on in this story: a boy is coping with his loss of his mother (though temporarily), much as Bruce Willis was actually coping with his own death (while we never even realized it all along.....). Two very similarly mind-warping &amp; reality shifting experiences. I very much liked that about L&amp;S, and it did its Twist-thing SO well that I won&#039;t be surprised if it receives an Honor. But if it wins the Medal, I&#039;ll be quite a bit surprised....something even better out there deserves the 2013 Medal instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all will not be completely shocked if L&amp;S earns an Honor Award, but I think we all will be surprised if L&amp;S wins the Medal. I loved this book, but medal-winning WYRM was definitely on a higher plane than this one.</p>
<p>And yes, L&amp;S has a twist (two, in fact), which makes this book all the more potently affective (yes, with an &#8220;a&#8221;). The best character in the book was Safer&#8230;he provided the most laughs, and he &#8220;plays&#8221; the spy &#8220;game&#8221; so much better than Georges that we literally believe him (as does Georges), thus setting us up for Twist #1.</p>
<p>Twist #2 (mom in hospital) is so reminiscent of Bruce Willis&#8217;s Sixth Sense: You think you understood what you just read (or watched) throughout the whole story, but now you have to go back though it all and re-experience it in an entirely different light to understand what was actually going on in this story: a boy is coping with his loss of his mother (though temporarily), much as Bruce Willis was actually coping with his own death (while we never even realized it all along&#8230;..). Two very similarly mind-warping &amp; reality shifting experiences. I very much liked that about L&amp;S, and it did its Twist-thing SO well that I won&#8217;t be surprised if it receives an Honor. But if it wins the Medal, I&#8217;ll be quite a bit surprised&#8230;.something even better out there deserves the 2013 Medal instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. H</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104400</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Wendy and Mark, I did say: &quot;To be fair, my biggest problem with the book might not be the book’s fault, but the marketing campaign.&quot;

I acknowledge that and admit that it&#039;s my own personal hurdle I can&#039;t get over. I just can&#039;t help it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Wendy and Mark, I did say: &#8220;To be fair, my biggest problem with the book might not be the book’s fault, but the marketing campaign.&#8221;</p>
<p>I acknowledge that and admit that it&#8217;s my own personal hurdle I can&#8217;t get over. I just can&#8217;t help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this was excellent - to me, every layer of the story ended up feeling necessary, which feels rare in more bloated books. I didn&#039;t have any preconceptions about the book - I&#039;d read Stead&#039;s other books, but hadn&#039;t heard anything about the plot of this one. I wasn&#039;t expecting a twist, which I think changes the way you read a book. When I&#039;m looking for the twist in a story, it&#039;s easy to be disappointed unless it&#039;s amazing. Here, I could tell Safer wasn&#039;t being entirely honest but I didn&#039;t expect any twist with the mother. I agree with Wendy and Mark that marketing it as a &#039;twist&#039; book has nothing to do with Newbery criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was excellent &#8211; to me, every layer of the story ended up feeling necessary, which feels rare in more bloated books. I didn&#8217;t have any preconceptions about the book &#8211; I&#8217;d read Stead&#8217;s other books, but hadn&#8217;t heard anything about the plot of this one. I wasn&#8217;t expecting a twist, which I think changes the way you read a book. When I&#8217;m looking for the twist in a story, it&#8217;s easy to be disappointed unless it&#8217;s amazing. Here, I could tell Safer wasn&#8217;t being entirely honest but I didn&#8217;t expect any twist with the mother. I agree with Wendy and Mark that marketing it as a &#8216;twist&#8217; book has nothing to do with Newbery criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just reread this one, and wanted to make a couple points:

1) Sam said he disliked &quot;that bit that’s one of those scenes where everyone gets together and hatches a plan…except that the reader doesn’t get to know what the plan is, for no narrative reason other than to artificially induce some suspense&quot; I too completely hate that type of suspense-creation, but when I re-read the book I realized a) it lasts precisely 6 pages (some of which are largely white space), and b) Stead actually reveals the plan (by means of Bob English&#039;s note) prior to it being carried out, which, for me at least, greatly mitigates the problem.

2) Completely agree with what everyone had to say about Stead&#039;s mastery of language and theme.  Practically every line of the book seethes with extra meanings and ideas, once you know the ending - but it is never oppressive or un-subtle. 

Just an amazing book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just reread this one, and wanted to make a couple points:</p>
<p>1) Sam said he disliked &#8220;that bit that’s one of those scenes where everyone gets together and hatches a plan…except that the reader doesn’t get to know what the plan is, for no narrative reason other than to artificially induce some suspense&#8221; I too completely hate that type of suspense-creation, but when I re-read the book I realized a) it lasts precisely 6 pages (some of which are largely white space), and b) Stead actually reveals the plan (by means of Bob English&#8217;s note) prior to it being carried out, which, for me at least, greatly mitigates the problem.</p>
<p>2) Completely agree with what everyone had to say about Stead&#8217;s mastery of language and theme.  Practically every line of the book seethes with extra meanings and ideas, once you know the ending &#8211; but it is never oppressive or un-subtle. </p>
<p>Just an amazing book.</p>
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		<title>By: DaNae</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104202</link>
		<dc:creator>DaNae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alys go ahead and take the full 20, just don&#039;t spend them all on candy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alys go ahead and take the full 20, just don&#8217;t spend them all on candy.</p>
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		<title>By: Alys</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104199</link>
		<dc:creator>Alys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia says  &quot;In 1932 the committee felt it was important to encourage new authors in the field so a rule was made that an author who had already won a Newbery could only win again if the vote was unanimous. In 1958 the rule was felt unnecessary and was removed.&quot;

I award myself 10 points for finding information, but only ten because the only source is Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia says  &#8220;In 1932 the committee felt it was important to encourage new authors in the field so a rule was made that an author who had already won a Newbery could only win again if the vote was unanimous. In 1958 the rule was felt unnecessary and was removed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I award myself 10 points for finding information, but only ten because the only source is Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: DaNae</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104171</link>
		<dc:creator>DaNae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that all the criteria are present and accounted for, with interpretation of theme possibly being the strongest of all.  With the opening paragraphs Jonathan shared misinformation is a given.  Questioning &quot;known&quot; facts should put the readers on the alert, but it was easy to become engrossed in Geroges world and forget to question.

I keep running into real world things like security cameras phonetic spelling and tastebuds, causing me to pause and try and remember where I&#039;d just read about them.  This book is packed with fun without feeling cluttered.

Newbery Trivia:  There was a time when a book could not win the medal if the author had previously won.  I&#039;m not sure the year that changed.  20 points to whoever can supply it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that all the criteria are present and accounted for, with interpretation of theme possibly being the strongest of all.  With the opening paragraphs Jonathan shared misinformation is a given.  Questioning &#8220;known&#8221; facts should put the readers on the alert, but it was easy to become engrossed in Geroges world and forget to question.</p>
<p>I keep running into real world things like security cameras phonetic spelling and tastebuds, causing me to pause and try and remember where I&#8217;d just read about them.  This book is packed with fun without feeling cluttered.</p>
<p>Newbery Trivia:  There was a time when a book could not win the medal if the author had previously won.  I&#8217;m not sure the year that changed.  20 points to whoever can supply it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Wendy - I&#039;ve been trying to formulate my thoughts on the issue of the &quot;twist&quot; and you&#039;ve put it better than I could have.  I read the book super-early, and had not heard anything about the twist ending.  I loved it from page one, and would have thought it was the best MG novel of the year even without the &quot;twist&quot; about the mother (the other &quot;twist&quot;, about Safer, was more important to the story, for me).  I was surprised by the ending, but it wasn&#039;t a matter of making or breaking the book.  It was just something extra to think about.

I really would prefer if we could stop talking about WYRM, but since various people have been comparing them, I&#039;ll just say (very briefly) that I think FIRST LIGHT is better than either of the other two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Wendy &#8211; I&#8217;ve been trying to formulate my thoughts on the issue of the &#8220;twist&#8221; and you&#8217;ve put it better than I could have.  I read the book super-early, and had not heard anything about the twist ending.  I loved it from page one, and would have thought it was the best MG novel of the year even without the &#8220;twist&#8221; about the mother (the other &#8220;twist&#8221;, about Safer, was more important to the story, for me).  I was surprised by the ending, but it wasn&#8217;t a matter of making or breaking the book.  It was just something extra to think about.</p>
<p>I really would prefer if we could stop talking about WYRM, but since various people have been comparing them, I&#8217;ll just say (very briefly) that I think FIRST LIGHT is better than either of the other two.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of way back when THE UNDERNEATH was up for consideration. There was so much discussion about how people look at the cover and expect one kind of book, and get cognitive dissonance when they read the book that&#039;s there, and then fault the book for it.

Any question of there being a &quot;twist&quot; in LIAR &amp; SPY is marketing, no more, no less, and has nothing to do with the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of way back when THE UNDERNEATH was up for consideration. There was so much discussion about how people look at the cover and expect one kind of book, and get cognitive dissonance when they read the book that&#8217;s there, and then fault the book for it.</p>
<p>Any question of there being a &#8220;twist&#8221; in LIAR &amp; SPY is marketing, no more, no less, and has nothing to do with the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Sondy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/10/17/liar-spy/#comment-104142</link>
		<dc:creator>Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought L&amp;S was basically WYRM without the punch.  I was simply not surprised by any of the revelations, and didn&#039;t really think they qualified as a &quot;twist.&quot;  Mind you, I didn&#039;t foresee that Safer was lying, but somehow it was lacking in punch.

That said, one thing Rebecca Stead does exceptionally well is create believable, realistic, and incredibly quirky kid characters.  This is a good book.  It&#039;s well written.  For me, it doesn&#039;t rise above the pack.

I was thinking more about Splendors &amp; Glooms.  I think part of why it came across as &quot;boring&quot; was how much she tells about the adults, that the kids don&#039;t know.  It destroys any sense of suspense.  Although I didn&#039;t guess how Parse lost his finger, I wasn&#039;t even slightly surprised.  We knew all along that Grisini and Cassandra had magic, and that Grisini was with Cassandra, so we weren&#039;t the least bit surprised when he turned up.  I think that was a flaw in plotting.

Now, Rebecca Stead doesn&#039;t do that.  She keeps it from Georges&#039; perspective.  But somehow I don&#039;t feel a sense of danger about Georges&#039; Mom.  Maybe because he doesn&#039;t visit until his mom is better?

In my case, the book definitely suffered in comparison to WYRM.  The &quot;twist&quot; was practically nothing in comparison.  In comparison with other books of the year?  Maaaaybe.  If I were on the committee, I&#039;d give it another reading or two.  She does write characters very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought L&amp;S was basically WYRM without the punch.  I was simply not surprised by any of the revelations, and didn&#8217;t really think they qualified as a &#8220;twist.&#8221;  Mind you, I didn&#8217;t foresee that Safer was lying, but somehow it was lacking in punch.</p>
<p>That said, one thing Rebecca Stead does exceptionally well is create believable, realistic, and incredibly quirky kid characters.  This is a good book.  It&#8217;s well written.  For me, it doesn&#8217;t rise above the pack.</p>
<p>I was thinking more about Splendors &amp; Glooms.  I think part of why it came across as &#8220;boring&#8221; was how much she tells about the adults, that the kids don&#8217;t know.  It destroys any sense of suspense.  Although I didn&#8217;t guess how Parse lost his finger, I wasn&#8217;t even slightly surprised.  We knew all along that Grisini and Cassandra had magic, and that Grisini was with Cassandra, so we weren&#8217;t the least bit surprised when he turned up.  I think that was a flaw in plotting.</p>
<p>Now, Rebecca Stead doesn&#8217;t do that.  She keeps it from Georges&#8217; perspective.  But somehow I don&#8217;t feel a sense of danger about Georges&#8217; Mom.  Maybe because he doesn&#8217;t visit until his mom is better?</p>
<p>In my case, the book definitely suffered in comparison to WYRM.  The &#8220;twist&#8221; was practically nothing in comparison.  In comparison with other books of the year?  Maaaaybe.  If I were on the committee, I&#8217;d give it another reading or two.  She does write characters very well.</p>
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