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	<title>Comments on: Fourmile and What Came from the Stars</title>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105873</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to chime in again to say that I was a little confused about the power of the necklace. It was Art, and allowed its wearer to be amazingly creative and intuitive, but also seemed to have the ability to bring creatures to life and generate images of people who have died (Tommy&#039;s mom appearing briefly to him). The motivation to recover the necklace, and possibly die in pursuit, was unclear. I was wondering if I was just missing the crucial powers of the necklace because there was so much terminology to wade through in the alien chapters. There was talk about Tommy not understanding the true power he had while wearing the necklace, but he seemed to be able to get what he needed from it while he wore it; also, his mother and father are both artists. Maybe that is its power?

Then, I was also wondering if Gary Schmidt was saying something about the value of art/culture to society. I think this was muddied by the other powers (or hinted powers) of the necklace. The evil leader (I forget his name) didn&#039;t seem to have a clear motivation for wanting Art...just the power.

I&#039;m still thinking about this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to chime in again to say that I was a little confused about the power of the necklace. It was Art, and allowed its wearer to be amazingly creative and intuitive, but also seemed to have the ability to bring creatures to life and generate images of people who have died (Tommy&#8217;s mom appearing briefly to him). The motivation to recover the necklace, and possibly die in pursuit, was unclear. I was wondering if I was just missing the crucial powers of the necklace because there was so much terminology to wade through in the alien chapters. There was talk about Tommy not understanding the true power he had while wearing the necklace, but he seemed to be able to get what he needed from it while he wore it; also, his mother and father are both artists. Maybe that is its power?</p>
<p>Then, I was also wondering if Gary Schmidt was saying something about the value of art/culture to society. I think this was muddied by the other powers (or hinted powers) of the necklace. The evil leader (I forget his name) didn&#8217;t seem to have a clear motivation for wanting Art&#8230;just the power.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still thinking about this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sondy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105872</link>
		<dc:creator>Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the Tolkienesque language was a cliche -- even an apostrophe thrown in with the O&#039;Mondim!  Reminded me of Diana Wynne Jones&#039; Tough Guide to Fantasyland, where she describes all the cliches that come up in fantasy novels.  On top of that, with the strange words thrown in, there were definitely obstacles to figuring out what was going on.

But more than that, the logic of the other world problem just didn&#039;t work for me.  Okay, they send their Art across the galaxy.  Then they hide out for a little while and then try to get it back before the bad guys can find it?  Say what?  If they all died or the whole planet exploded and this was the only way to preserve it, I could have believed it.  But if they&#039;re just hiding it for a little while, I do think the other side of their own planet would have worked fine.  The only reason to send it to Earth was so the book would have something to be about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the Tolkienesque language was a cliche &#8212; even an apostrophe thrown in with the O&#8217;Mondim!  Reminded me of Diana Wynne Jones&#8217; Tough Guide to Fantasyland, where she describes all the cliches that come up in fantasy novels.  On top of that, with the strange words thrown in, there were definitely obstacles to figuring out what was going on.</p>
<p>But more than that, the logic of the other world problem just didn&#8217;t work for me.  Okay, they send their Art across the galaxy.  Then they hide out for a little while and then try to get it back before the bad guys can find it?  Say what?  If they all died or the whole planet exploded and this was the only way to preserve it, I could have believed it.  But if they&#8217;re just hiding it for a little while, I do think the other side of their own planet would have worked fine.  The only reason to send it to Earth was so the book would have something to be about.</p>
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		<title>By: DaNae</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105871</link>
		<dc:creator>DaNae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I missed Nina&#039;s post with the excitement of listing more books and fighting over age appropriateness.

I&#039;m so relieved to find that I was not the only one to flounder though the alien stuff.  I hate leaning new terminology.  It really is a dyslixic&#039;s nightmare.  I was so attached to Tommy&#039;s story I stayed with him to the end.  I had the chance to meet Mr. Schmidt this summer at SCBWI and he said he didn&#039;t particularly enjoy the experience of writing Sci Fi and wouldn&#039;t return to it.

Looking forward to FOURMILE - lot&#039;s of dogs showing up on books this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I missed Nina&#8217;s post with the excitement of listing more books and fighting over age appropriateness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so relieved to find that I was not the only one to flounder though the alien stuff.  I hate leaning new terminology.  It really is a dyslixic&#8217;s nightmare.  I was so attached to Tommy&#8217;s story I stayed with him to the end.  I had the chance to meet Mr. Schmidt this summer at SCBWI and he said he didn&#8217;t particularly enjoy the experience of writing Sci Fi and wouldn&#8217;t return to it.</p>
<p>Looking forward to FOURMILE &#8211; lot&#8217;s of dogs showing up on books this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105861</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggled with the alien chapters because the scenes in Plymouth were so rich. Tommy&#039;s day-to-day life, including his grief (and the grief of his family), the scenes in the school cafeteria, the real estate battle for his family&#039;s property, even the intrusion of the &quot;aliens&quot; as substitute teacher and &quot;friend&quot; of Tommy, were completely engaging. The overlay of the other world, with it&#039;s foreign language, seemed superficial by comparison. I didn&#039;t feel motivated to really concentrate and try to understand the chapters set in the other world because I felt as though I got what I needed to get from reading about Tommy, his family and his friends. There were too many words that didn&#039;t make sense and I simply felt frustrated. I think I would have understood what I needed to understand about the value of the necklace and the struggle to bring it back to the other world if the alien chapters were simply removed.

I was also frustrated that Tommy forgot everything at the end ... I agree with Kate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggled with the alien chapters because the scenes in Plymouth were so rich. Tommy&#8217;s day-to-day life, including his grief (and the grief of his family), the scenes in the school cafeteria, the real estate battle for his family&#8217;s property, even the intrusion of the &#8220;aliens&#8221; as substitute teacher and &#8220;friend&#8221; of Tommy, were completely engaging. The overlay of the other world, with it&#8217;s foreign language, seemed superficial by comparison. I didn&#8217;t feel motivated to really concentrate and try to understand the chapters set in the other world because I felt as though I got what I needed to get from reading about Tommy, his family and his friends. There were too many words that didn&#8217;t make sense and I simply felt frustrated. I think I would have understood what I needed to understand about the value of the necklace and the struggle to bring it back to the other world if the alien chapters were simply removed.</p>
<p>I was also frustrated that Tommy forgot everything at the end &#8230; I agree with Kate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Coombs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105750</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Coombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Alabama Moon, so thanks for letting me know about Fourmile!

I liked What Came from the Stars for most of the book, alien language and all. However, I&#039;m pretty irked with Schmidt for his ending. I think it&#039;s a huge betrayal of a sci-fi/fantasy book to rip the rug out from under the main character in the final pages like that. I&#039;ve only seen it done once before, and I hated it then, too. There&#039;s something terribly condescending about ending that way. It&#039;s robbery, really. Only a tad less awful for a reader than &quot;It was all only a dream.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Alabama Moon, so thanks for letting me know about Fourmile!</p>
<p>I liked What Came from the Stars for most of the book, alien language and all. However, I&#8217;m pretty irked with Schmidt for his ending. I think it&#8217;s a huge betrayal of a sci-fi/fantasy book to rip the rug out from under the main character in the final pages like that. I&#8217;ve only seen it done once before, and I hated it then, too. There&#8217;s something terribly condescending about ending that way. It&#8217;s robbery, really. Only a tad less awful for a reader than &#8220;It was all only a dream.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/10/fourmile-and-what-came-from-the-stars/#comment-105693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read FOURMILE yet (or ALABAMA MOON for that matter) although I did like DIRT ROAD HOME.  FOURMILE is in the pile.

While I can appreciate what Scmidt was trying to do here, the Tolkienese just didn&#039;t work for me.  It did make me want to pull THE SILMARILLON out and retread it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read FOURMILE yet (or ALABAMA MOON for that matter) although I did like DIRT ROAD HOME.  FOURMILE is in the pile.</p>
<p>While I can appreciate what Scmidt was trying to do here, the Tolkienese just didn&#8217;t work for me.  It did make me want to pull THE SILMARILLON out and retread it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy, I used &quot;male&quot; again as a crutch, so fair to catch me on that.

I say &quot;not a fantasy writer&quot; because I don&#039;t think this book reaches any of the elements of fantasy or sci-fi that readers of those genres expect.  The story really reads like a &quot;realistic&quot; novel with an otherwordly overlay.   I actually like the effect...but I wouldn&#039;t call this book fantasy or sci-fi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, I used &#8220;male&#8221; again as a crutch, so fair to catch me on that.</p>
<p>I say &#8220;not a fantasy writer&#8221; because I don&#8217;t think this book reaches any of the elements of fantasy or sci-fi that readers of those genres expect.  The story really reads like a &#8220;realistic&#8221; novel with an otherwordly overlay.   I actually like the effect&#8230;but I wouldn&#8217;t call this book fantasy or sci-fi.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quibble: what makes Schmidt &quot;not...a fantasy writer&quot;, when he writes fantasy--if not exclusively?

The only way I managed to get through this book was, basically, skipping everything that takes place in the other world. I put that down to it being VERY MUCH &quot;not my thing&quot;, but maybe it isn&#039;t that at all.

&quot;High-quality prose for a male audience&quot;? I&#039;m still uncomfortable with that dichotomy... especially as regards books like this one. (I&#039;m not so intent on being PC that I will deny there are SOME books that are clearly written with boys in mind or girls in mind, no matter who else might enjoy them.) I think this is one of those books that Roger Sutton might say was actually a girl&#039;s book in disguise. I didn&#039;t really think it was one or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quibble: what makes Schmidt &#8220;not&#8230;a fantasy writer&#8221;, when he writes fantasy&#8211;if not exclusively?</p>
<p>The only way I managed to get through this book was, basically, skipping everything that takes place in the other world. I put that down to it being VERY MUCH &#8220;not my thing&#8221;, but maybe it isn&#8217;t that at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;High-quality prose for a male audience&#8221;? I&#8217;m still uncomfortable with that dichotomy&#8230; especially as regards books like this one. (I&#8217;m not so intent on being PC that I will deny there are SOME books that are clearly written with boys in mind or girls in mind, no matter who else might enjoy them.) I think this is one of those books that Roger Sutton might say was actually a girl&#8217;s book in disguise. I didn&#8217;t really think it was one or the other.</p>
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