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		<title>By: Jean Mendoza</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-108163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Mendoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also thought The Round House was amazing. It pulled me in and kept me there -- laughing, shivering, weeping -- and I had to immediately read it again, but not because it was entertaining. It was a rough and painful ride, a complex horror story that brought up rough and painful emotions although there was comfort in there somewhere, too. I reread it because there was more to know, that I couldn&#039;t let in the first time through. My husband also found it compelling. But I&#039;d be cautious about recommending it to a young teen I didn&#039;t know well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also thought The Round House was amazing. It pulled me in and kept me there &#8212; laughing, shivering, weeping &#8212; and I had to immediately read it again, but not because it was entertaining. It was a rough and painful ride, a complex horror story that brought up rough and painful emotions although there was comfort in there somewhere, too. I reread it because there was more to know, that I couldn&#8217;t let in the first time through. My husband also found it compelling. But I&#8217;d be cautious about recommending it to a young teen I didn&#8217;t know well.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Reese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-107852</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie: They&#039;re no worse, in my mind, than the rape scene in JULIE OF THE WOLVES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie: They&#8217;re no worse, in my mind, than the rape scene in JULIE OF THE WOLVES.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106854</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  just finished reading The Round House and loved it. I do wonder from time to time why some books with teenage narrators aren&#039;t designated YA and others are. But I was stopped at a couple of fairly graphic sex/violence scenes in the novel that took it out of the YA category for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  just finished reading The Round House and loved it. I do wonder from time to time why some books with teenage narrators aren&#8217;t designated YA and others are. But I was stopped at a couple of fairly graphic sex/violence scenes in the novel that took it out of the YA category for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Reese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106543</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see The Round House being discussed. Definitely works for teen readers. I loved it and Chickadee, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see The Round House being discussed. Definitely works for teen readers. I loved it and Chickadee, too.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106523</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara Ehrenreich&#039;s NICKEL &amp; DIMED and Eric Schlosser&#039;s FAST FOOD NATION (granted, NF examples) are two contemporary curricular titles that are read by a lot of teens, but there&#039;s no argument I can entertain that they were written *for* teens.
Truly, not every title has to seep downward into the teen or kids collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Ehrenreich&#8217;s NICKEL &amp; DIMED and Eric Schlosser&#8217;s FAST FOOD NATION (granted, NF examples) are two contemporary curricular titles that are read by a lot of teens, but there&#8217;s no argument I can entertain that they were written *for* teens.<br />
Truly, not every title has to seep downward into the teen or kids collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106522</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz Burns had a piece on her blog recently about various labels for literature such as &#039;new adult&#039; and &#039;cross under&#039; that are being tossed about by the media these days. My feeling is that it&#039;s much more for marketing purposes than any actual literary distinction between the levels. A good book is a good book, at least in my opinion. 

Almost everything we discuss here is assumed to be pleasure reading for kids, and although some Newbery titles are curriculum by now (GIVER, MANIAC MAGEE being the two I can think of offhand), once we hit middle and high school most of the books on school reading lists have traditionally been adult titles as opposed to YA. I think that&#039;s changing (I only taught elementary, so can&#039;t really say), but THE SCARLET LETTER was definitely curriculum when I was in high school and I think still is in Virginia, so you will have lots of teens reading it (possibly unwillingly!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz Burns had a piece on her blog recently about various labels for literature such as &#8216;new adult&#8217; and &#8216;cross under&#8217; that are being tossed about by the media these days. My feeling is that it&#8217;s much more for marketing purposes than any actual literary distinction between the levels. A good book is a good book, at least in my opinion. </p>
<p>Almost everything we discuss here is assumed to be pleasure reading for kids, and although some Newbery titles are curriculum by now (GIVER, MANIAC MAGEE being the two I can think of offhand), once we hit middle and high school most of the books on school reading lists have traditionally been adult titles as opposed to YA. I think that&#8217;s changing (I only taught elementary, so can&#8217;t really say), but THE SCARLET LETTER was definitely curriculum when I was in high school and I think still is in Virginia, so you will have lots of teens reading it (possibly unwillingly!).</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Sutton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106493</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was advertised in the Horn Book prior to publication and got a good review albeit along the lines of &quot;a lot of people are going to look down their nose at this, and, yes, it&#039;s preachy and uneven, but we love it anyway.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was advertised in the Horn Book prior to publication and got a good review albeit along the lines of &#8220;a lot of people are going to look down their nose at this, and, yes, it&#8217;s preachy and uneven, but we love it anyway.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/21/louise-erdrich/#comment-106486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My impression is that the choice was more prone to surprises then because of  (a) the lack of communication that we have today and (b) the diversity of publishers.  I mean, L&#039;Engle was rejected by at least 26 publishers.  Are there even 26 publishers left?


From Wikipedia--

When she completed the book in early 1960, it was rejected by at least 26 publishers, because it was, in L&#039;Engle&#039;s words, &quot;too different&quot;, and &quot;because it deals overtly with the problem of evil, and it was really difficult for children, and was it a children&#039;s or an adults&#039; book, anyhow?&quot;

L&#039;Engle explains another possible reason for the rejections: &quot;A Wrinkle in Time had a female protagonist in a science fiction book,&quot; which at the time &quot;wasn&#039;t done&quot; according to L&#039;Engle. After trying &quot;forty-odd&quot; publishers (L&#039;Engle later said &quot;twenty-six rejections&quot;), L&#039;Engle&#039;s agent returned the manuscript to her. Then at Christmas, L&#039;Engle threw a tea party for her mother. One of the guests happened to know John C. Farrar of Farrar, Straus and Giroux, and insisted that L&#039;Engle should meet with him. Although the publisher did not at the time publish a line of children&#039;s books, Farrar met L&#039;Engle, liked the novel and ultimately published it.
 
From the Washington Post--

Finally, one publisher, John Farrar, decided that “Wrinkle’s” uniqueness was what made it worth publishing. He didn’t expect it to sell many copies, though, let alone win the Newbery. L’Engle herself was surprised that so many kids loved the book. She didn’t set out to write a kids book. She wrote what was in her head, whatever that was, and she felt she had no power to change the story that came out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression is that the choice was more prone to surprises then because of  (a) the lack of communication that we have today and (b) the diversity of publishers.  I mean, L&#8217;Engle was rejected by at least 26 publishers.  Are there even 26 publishers left?</p>
<p>From Wikipedia&#8211;</p>
<p>When she completed the book in early 1960, it was rejected by at least 26 publishers, because it was, in L&#8217;Engle&#8217;s words, &#8220;too different&#8221;, and &#8220;because it deals overtly with the problem of evil, and it was really difficult for children, and was it a children&#8217;s or an adults&#8217; book, anyhow?&#8221;</p>
<p>L&#8217;Engle explains another possible reason for the rejections: &#8220;A Wrinkle in Time had a female protagonist in a science fiction book,&#8221; which at the time &#8220;wasn&#8217;t done&#8221; according to L&#8217;Engle. After trying &#8220;forty-odd&#8221; publishers (L&#8217;Engle later said &#8220;twenty-six rejections&#8221;), L&#8217;Engle&#8217;s agent returned the manuscript to her. Then at Christmas, L&#8217;Engle threw a tea party for her mother. One of the guests happened to know John C. Farrar of Farrar, Straus and Giroux, and insisted that L&#8217;Engle should meet with him. Although the publisher did not at the time publish a line of children&#8217;s books, Farrar met L&#8217;Engle, liked the novel and ultimately published it.</p>
<p>From the Washington Post&#8211;</p>
<p>Finally, one publisher, John Farrar, decided that “Wrinkle’s” uniqueness was what made it worth publishing. He didn’t expect it to sell many copies, though, let alone win the Newbery. L’Engle herself was surprised that so many kids loved the book. She didn’t set out to write a kids book. She wrote what was in her head, whatever that was, and she felt she had no power to change the story that came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, A Wrinkle in Time got several positive reviews when it was published; I don&#039;t get the impression that it was an out-of-nowhere choice. Yet again, missing Peter Sieruta here.

(Agreed, by the way, that I&#039;d rather see TKAM in the Newbery canon than CNV.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, A Wrinkle in Time got several positive reviews when it was published; I don&#8217;t get the impression that it was an out-of-nowhere choice. Yet again, missing Peter Sieruta here.</p>
<p>(Agreed, by the way, that I&#8217;d rather see TKAM in the Newbery canon than CNV.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never thought of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD as a juvenile novel, and I&#039;ve never seen it referred to as such.  I do think it would have made a good YA novel, one that could easily appeal to 13- and 14-year-olds, and I&#039;d certainly put it in the canon sooner than I&#039;d put CODE NAME VERITY or CHIME there.

Madeleine L&#039;Engle clearly wrote A WRINKLE IN TIME as a children&#039;s book, and I&#039;m sure that most, if not all, of the 2-3 dozen publishers that rejected the book were children&#039;s publishers.  I&#039;m sure Farrar thought of this as a children&#039;s book when they published it even though they didn&#039;t publish children&#039;s books, but since their marketing team wasn&#039;t hip to the children&#039;s scene, I wonder what kind of advertisting push it got, and how the sales team got it into bookstores and libraries.  Was the book even submitted to the committee?  I really don&#039;t know the answers to these questions, but my guess is that this was a vigilant committee that went out of their way to find this book and recognize it.

I really don&#039;t care who a book is published for, the real question is how do children respond to it.  Some books are published for adults that succeed wonderfully at presentation for a child audience.  Some books are published for children that fail miserably at presentation for a child audience.  I haven&#039;t the slightest clue how children would respond to THE ROUND HOUSE, but you can bet that if I found it sufficiently distinguished, and I was curious about how it appealed to children, whether it respected their abilities, understandings, and appreciations, then I would field test it on junior high students until I felt that I could answer those questions with confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD as a juvenile novel, and I&#8217;ve never seen it referred to as such.  I do think it would have made a good YA novel, one that could easily appeal to 13- and 14-year-olds, and I&#8217;d certainly put it in the canon sooner than I&#8217;d put CODE NAME VERITY or CHIME there.</p>
<p>Madeleine L&#8217;Engle clearly wrote A WRINKLE IN TIME as a children&#8217;s book, and I&#8217;m sure that most, if not all, of the 2-3 dozen publishers that rejected the book were children&#8217;s publishers.  I&#8217;m sure Farrar thought of this as a children&#8217;s book when they published it even though they didn&#8217;t publish children&#8217;s books, but since their marketing team wasn&#8217;t hip to the children&#8217;s scene, I wonder what kind of advertisting push it got, and how the sales team got it into bookstores and libraries.  Was the book even submitted to the committee?  I really don&#8217;t know the answers to these questions, but my guess is that this was a vigilant committee that went out of their way to find this book and recognize it.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t care who a book is published for, the real question is how do children respond to it.  Some books are published for adults that succeed wonderfully at presentation for a child audience.  Some books are published for children that fail miserably at presentation for a child audience.  I haven&#8217;t the slightest clue how children would respond to THE ROUND HOUSE, but you can bet that if I found it sufficiently distinguished, and I was curious about how it appealed to children, whether it respected their abilities, understandings, and appreciations, then I would field test it on junior high students until I felt that I could answer those questions with confidence.</p>
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