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	<title>Comments on: Summer of the Gypsy Moths, with Sondy Elkund</title>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to this party, I know, but I&#039;ll put a few thoughts out there in case anyone is still reading.

I admire this book very much, and find that the thing giving some folks pause is the thing that, for me, elevates it beyond engaging to distinguished.

I concur that there is a palpable dissonance between the content and the narrative tone. But shouldn&#039;t there be? This is a book about two young girls trying desperately to convince themselves that they&#039;re doing just fine, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. They know it&#039;s a house of cards and yet they&#039;re putting everything they have into maintaining the illusion, for themselves as much as for the powers that be. To me the earnestness of the narrative echoes Stella&#039;s dreams for a safe and regular life. Sure, it strikes a somewhat discomfiting chord with the situations unfolding. That, for me, is its genius. And those chords, however dissonant, to my ear are perfectly in tune.

I wonder to what degree we&#039;re reacting to the cover art. I do believe that the cover promises a book very different from the book we get. Maybe that&#039;s intentional, making convenient promises of security and happiness that the story will challenge repeatedly. But would the tone of the book feel quite so jarring if we began with a cover closer in tone to something like Pictures of Hollis Woods or Alabama Moon? I think that I wouldn&#039;t have had to work so hard to reconcile the tone and the content had the cover suggested something with more grit and fewer pastels. That said, I enjoy a little heavy lifting with my reading, and would be willing to call it &quot;respect for a child audience&quot; any day of the week.

Thanks for the conversation. Thinking about the book in response to others&#039; concerns really helped me to clarify my own thoughts.

Thom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to this party, I know, but I&#8217;ll put a few thoughts out there in case anyone is still reading.</p>
<p>I admire this book very much, and find that the thing giving some folks pause is the thing that, for me, elevates it beyond engaging to distinguished.</p>
<p>I concur that there is a palpable dissonance between the content and the narrative tone. But shouldn&#8217;t there be? This is a book about two young girls trying desperately to convince themselves that they&#8217;re doing just fine, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. They know it&#8217;s a house of cards and yet they&#8217;re putting everything they have into maintaining the illusion, for themselves as much as for the powers that be. To me the earnestness of the narrative echoes Stella&#8217;s dreams for a safe and regular life. Sure, it strikes a somewhat discomfiting chord with the situations unfolding. That, for me, is its genius. And those chords, however dissonant, to my ear are perfectly in tune.</p>
<p>I wonder to what degree we&#8217;re reacting to the cover art. I do believe that the cover promises a book very different from the book we get. Maybe that&#8217;s intentional, making convenient promises of security and happiness that the story will challenge repeatedly. But would the tone of the book feel quite so jarring if we began with a cover closer in tone to something like Pictures of Hollis Woods or Alabama Moon? I think that I wouldn&#8217;t have had to work so hard to reconcile the tone and the content had the cover suggested something with more grit and fewer pastels. That said, I enjoy a little heavy lifting with my reading, and would be willing to call it &#8220;respect for a child audience&#8221; any day of the week.</p>
<p>Thanks for the conversation. Thinking about the book in response to others&#8217; concerns really helped me to clarify my own thoughts.</p>
<p>Thom</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I am not up to speed on reading everything but have to put in my support for Gypsy Moths. I found it delightful with a wonderful sprinkling of humor that is not an easy thing to pull off. I realize that humor is not part of the Newbery criteria, but I see it as part of that elusive quality called style.

I haven&#039;t read S&amp;G but have read LIAR AND SPY, and the latter felt forced and contrived compared to Gypsy Moths. To me it&#039;s like looking at art work. For example, when I look at a pencil or pen and ink drawing, I might be captivated by the quality of the lines, the action implied in a stroke, the sheer skill of the artist who makes it seem effortless. Another drawing might be rendered meticulously and be quite worthwhile but is lacking in that special &quot;look&quot; that attracts me and which I admire. To me, Gypsy Moths has that quality in the writing. 

Many people seem hung up on this book being realistic fiction but implausible. I found the events totally within the realm of possibility. Too many adults seem to have forgotten what childhood is like. Admittedly, I grew up a long time ago, when my parents had no clue what I was doing for large portions of each day. And I know my grand kids are closely supervised 99% of the time. However, in many families children are not monitored constantly, and these kids learn to be quick witted and independent. They also learn to lie extremely well especially if they feel threatened.

The other side of this coin is how obtuse the adults appear in this book. First of all, adults often are oblivious. Anyone who has been a parent should be willing to admit that we are not all-seeing and all-knowing. In addition, the girls are only alone for four weeks, and their situation is almost discovered several times. Why would anyone have suspected that the two girls were lying? Adult readers may think they&#039;d have realized what these kids were up to, or noticed that something was wrong. But I think Stella and Angel would have fooled the best of us. 

So, Sondy, don&#039;t be sad. I agree with you. Pennypacker&#039;s characters carry the wild plot very well indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I am not up to speed on reading everything but have to put in my support for Gypsy Moths. I found it delightful with a wonderful sprinkling of humor that is not an easy thing to pull off. I realize that humor is not part of the Newbery criteria, but I see it as part of that elusive quality called style.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read S&amp;G but have read LIAR AND SPY, and the latter felt forced and contrived compared to Gypsy Moths. To me it&#8217;s like looking at art work. For example, when I look at a pencil or pen and ink drawing, I might be captivated by the quality of the lines, the action implied in a stroke, the sheer skill of the artist who makes it seem effortless. Another drawing might be rendered meticulously and be quite worthwhile but is lacking in that special &#8220;look&#8221; that attracts me and which I admire. To me, Gypsy Moths has that quality in the writing. </p>
<p>Many people seem hung up on this book being realistic fiction but implausible. I found the events totally within the realm of possibility. Too many adults seem to have forgotten what childhood is like. Admittedly, I grew up a long time ago, when my parents had no clue what I was doing for large portions of each day. And I know my grand kids are closely supervised 99% of the time. However, in many families children are not monitored constantly, and these kids learn to be quick witted and independent. They also learn to lie extremely well especially if they feel threatened.</p>
<p>The other side of this coin is how obtuse the adults appear in this book. First of all, adults often are oblivious. Anyone who has been a parent should be willing to admit that we are not all-seeing and all-knowing. In addition, the girls are only alone for four weeks, and their situation is almost discovered several times. Why would anyone have suspected that the two girls were lying? Adult readers may think they&#8217;d have realized what these kids were up to, or noticed that something was wrong. But I think Stella and Angel would have fooled the best of us. </p>
<p>So, Sondy, don&#8217;t be sad. I agree with you. Pennypacker&#8217;s characters carry the wild plot very well indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sondy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jonathan, I think you&#039;ve got some good points -- and I&#039;m fighting it, because they make me sad!  Because I *did* like SotGM but not so much S&amp;G so I *want* SotGM to be more distinguished, but alas, I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s not.  Still, I&#039;m overanalyzing my reaction to S&amp;G because I do think there&#039;s a reason for the reactions that&#039;s rooted in the book text.  And, well, S&amp;G was nominated for a Cybils in the category of SF&amp;F (that&#039;s public information) -- so I jumped on that analysis for selfish reasons.  Trying to figure out if my reactions are based on something in the text that could have been done better.  And I just put a hold on it to look at it again.  But SotGM is not in my category, so I can just happily think fondly of it.

I do have to say that hearing other people&#039;s analyses of my personal favorites has made me much much less indignant when my favorites aren&#039;t up there on the podium.  I thought Pennypacker carried off the outrageousness of the plot with her characters, but clearly that&#039;s not universal opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jonathan, I think you&#8217;ve got some good points &#8212; and I&#8217;m fighting it, because they make me sad!  Because I *did* like SotGM but not so much S&amp;G so I *want* SotGM to be more distinguished, but alas, I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s not.  Still, I&#8217;m overanalyzing my reaction to S&amp;G because I do think there&#8217;s a reason for the reactions that&#8217;s rooted in the book text.  And, well, S&amp;G was nominated for a Cybils in the category of SF&amp;F (that&#8217;s public information) &#8212; so I jumped on that analysis for selfish reasons.  Trying to figure out if my reactions are based on something in the text that could have been done better.  And I just put a hold on it to look at it again.  But SotGM is not in my category, so I can just happily think fondly of it.</p>
<p>I do have to say that hearing other people&#8217;s analyses of my personal favorites has made me much much less indignant when my favorites aren&#8217;t up there on the podium.  I thought Pennypacker carried off the outrageousness of the plot with her characters, but clearly that&#8217;s not universal opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean to pull the focus of this discussion from SUMMER OF THE GYPSY MOTHS to SPLENDORS AND GLOOMS (which we&#039;ll surely be discussing in more depth).  I only did so to illustrate that since my judgement isn&#039;t clouded by *love* for either book, I find it easy to decide which book is most distinguished.  Clearly, we&#039;ll be comparing and contrasting lots of books down the stretch.  When I look at our mock nominations beyond those top three, I think SUMMER is as good as many of them.  I&#039;m just having a hard time seeing it as *most* distinguished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to pull the focus of this discussion from SUMMER OF THE GYPSY MOTHS to SPLENDORS AND GLOOMS (which we&#8217;ll surely be discussing in more depth).  I only did so to illustrate that since my judgement isn&#8217;t clouded by *love* for either book, I find it easy to decide which book is most distinguished.  Clearly, we&#8217;ll be comparing and contrasting lots of books down the stretch.  When I look at our mock nominations beyond those top three, I think SUMMER is as good as many of them.  I&#8217;m just having a hard time seeing it as *most* distinguished.</p>
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		<title>By: Sondy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;m hung up on the omniscient narration of S&amp;G.  But when a book starts feeling long and tedious, I start asking why.  Are there parts that, if cut, the book would be more effective without?  (Like Harry Potter agonizing over whether or not he&#039;s going to get into Hogwarts any given year.)  In the case of S&amp;G I came up with several sections (and they were sections) where we were in the thoughts of the adult characters.  Not all of those sections.  But there were some where I didn&#039;t feel like they advanced the plot, and maybe even detracted.  

But comparing it directly to SotGM, I admit the writing of S&amp;G does seem on another level.  Though I don&#039;t remember SotGM having as many of those problematic sections.  Some questionable believability?  Okay.

And it does remain that I will much more enthusiastically recommend SotGM to library patrons - though I realize that&#039;s not involved in the Newbery criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m hung up on the omniscient narration of S&amp;G.  But when a book starts feeling long and tedious, I start asking why.  Are there parts that, if cut, the book would be more effective without?  (Like Harry Potter agonizing over whether or not he&#8217;s going to get into Hogwarts any given year.)  In the case of S&amp;G I came up with several sections (and they were sections) where we were in the thoughts of the adult characters.  Not all of those sections.  But there were some where I didn&#8217;t feel like they advanced the plot, and maybe even detracted.  </p>
<p>But comparing it directly to SotGM, I admit the writing of S&amp;G does seem on another level.  Though I don&#8217;t remember SotGM having as many of those problematic sections.  Some questionable believability?  Okay.</p>
<p>And it does remain that I will much more enthusiastically recommend SotGM to library patrons &#8211; though I realize that&#8217;s not involved in the Newbery criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/2012/11/28/summer-of-the-gypsy-moths-with-sondy-elkund/#comment-106849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SLJ starred SUMMER OF THE GYPSY MOTHS, but it didn&#039;t make their Best Books list.  :-(

Check out what did.  

http://www.slj.com/2012/11/featured/best-books-2012/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SLJ starred SUMMER OF THE GYPSY MOTHS, but it didn&#8217;t make their Best Books list.  <img src='http://blogs.slj.com/heavymedal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Check out what did.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.slj.com/2012/11/featured/best-books-2012/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slj.com/2012/11/featured/best-books-2012/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Eddington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Eddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally can&#039;t get behind this one, though I enjoyed reading what Sondy has to say about it. Like Jonathan, I find the tone and plot unforgivably mismatched. More importantly for me, I didn&#039;t buy either of the girls as characters. Between the Heloise&#039;s Hints obsession, the filling in the plots of Reader&#039;s Digest books, and the ability to sense when things are &quot;wrong,&quot; Stella seemed more like a collection of literary quirks than a real child, and I didn&#039;t find Angel much more convincing. That could just be me, but it was problematic in my reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally can&#8217;t get behind this one, though I enjoyed reading what Sondy has to say about it. Like Jonathan, I find the tone and plot unforgivably mismatched. More importantly for me, I didn&#8217;t buy either of the girls as characters. Between the Heloise&#8217;s Hints obsession, the filling in the plots of Reader&#8217;s Digest books, and the ability to sense when things are &#8220;wrong,&#8221; Stella seemed more like a collection of literary quirks than a real child, and I didn&#8217;t find Angel much more convincing. That could just be me, but it was problematic in my reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Werlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Werlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sondy, it might be helpful if you were to abandon the idea of &quot;point of view&quot; when thinking about omniscient narration. In omniscient voice, the author feels free to dip into the heads and tell us the thoughts of any character in the drama, and to do it at any time. There is no need for a pattern -- the author might go from one character to another even in the same paragraph. You might hear what a particular character thinks once, and never be in their head again. Other characters might be revisited often. When done well, there is no confusion -- the author tells the story seamlessly.

In A LITTLE PRINCESS, for example, we spend time in the head of the monkey. We spend time in the head of the Indian servant. We spend time in the head of Sarah&#039;s father. And yes, with Miss Minchin -- and her sister! And in the head of the kind woman at the bakery. And in Ermintrude&#039;s head, and in the some of the other girls at the orphanage. And of course, we spend the most time in Sarah&#039;s head. But you should not think of any of this as &quot;point of view&quot; shifts. This is the author telling you the story, and the author is God when using omniscient voice, and God knows what everybody is thinking and feeling, and tells you whatever she wants to tell you, whenever she wants to tell it. 

Another great Newbery example of omniscient narration is of course THE WESTING GAME. (Where, again, you will find the author telling us what some adults are thinking and feeling, too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sondy, it might be helpful if you were to abandon the idea of &#8220;point of view&#8221; when thinking about omniscient narration. In omniscient voice, the author feels free to dip into the heads and tell us the thoughts of any character in the drama, and to do it at any time. There is no need for a pattern &#8212; the author might go from one character to another even in the same paragraph. You might hear what a particular character thinks once, and never be in their head again. Other characters might be revisited often. When done well, there is no confusion &#8212; the author tells the story seamlessly.</p>
<p>In A LITTLE PRINCESS, for example, we spend time in the head of the monkey. We spend time in the head of the Indian servant. We spend time in the head of Sarah&#8217;s father. And yes, with Miss Minchin &#8212; and her sister! And in the head of the kind woman at the bakery. And in Ermintrude&#8217;s head, and in the some of the other girls at the orphanage. And of course, we spend the most time in Sarah&#8217;s head. But you should not think of any of this as &#8220;point of view&#8221; shifts. This is the author telling you the story, and the author is God when using omniscient voice, and God knows what everybody is thinking and feeling, and tells you whatever she wants to tell you, whenever she wants to tell it. </p>
<p>Another great Newbery example of omniscient narration is of course THE WESTING GAME. (Where, again, you will find the author telling us what some adults are thinking and feeling, too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sondy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, do SECRET GARDEN and A LITTLE PRINCESS do any of the narration from Colin&#039;s father&#039;s perspective?  Or Miss Minchin?  (I think I remember from Miss Minchin&#039;s perspective, but in small ways, not ways that affect the climax.)  I didn&#039;t actually find the ending of S&amp;G very suspenseful myself -- because it wasn&#039;t at all surprising.  Didn&#039;t quite seem fair either that they were able to get out of it with no one dying a death by burning. And it was longer than it needed to be.  And over heavy on the foreshadowing.  Now are those flaws, or just personal preference?  I thought those things made the ending less effective.

I don&#039;t know -- The sentence-level writing of S&amp;G is beautiful, and it&#039;s unquestionably a well-written book, but I&#039;d need some convincing that the plot couldn&#039;t be done better.  I guess I&#039;m trying to say there was a reason some of us found it on the boring side. You can talk about what you like or don&#039;t like, but a whole lot of that is based on the craft of the book.

As far as child audience, has anyone out there tried it out with actual kids? (And I&#039;m asking that more from the perspective of the Cybils, which do consider child appeal, than the Newbery.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, do SECRET GARDEN and A LITTLE PRINCESS do any of the narration from Colin&#8217;s father&#8217;s perspective?  Or Miss Minchin?  (I think I remember from Miss Minchin&#8217;s perspective, but in small ways, not ways that affect the climax.)  I didn&#8217;t actually find the ending of S&amp;G very suspenseful myself &#8212; because it wasn&#8217;t at all surprising.  Didn&#8217;t quite seem fair either that they were able to get out of it with no one dying a death by burning. And it was longer than it needed to be.  And over heavy on the foreshadowing.  Now are those flaws, or just personal preference?  I thought those things made the ending less effective.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know &#8212; The sentence-level writing of S&amp;G is beautiful, and it&#8217;s unquestionably a well-written book, but I&#8217;d need some convincing that the plot couldn&#8217;t be done better.  I guess I&#8217;m trying to say there was a reason some of us found it on the boring side. You can talk about what you like or don&#8217;t like, but a whole lot of that is based on the craft of the book.</p>
<p>As far as child audience, has anyone out there tried it out with actual kids? (And I&#8217;m asking that more from the perspective of the Cybils, which do consider child appeal, than the Newbery.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6.  I don&#039;t really have any complaints about the improbabilities of the plot in and of itself, but the tone of the book just doesn&#039;t match it.  If I could reconcil the tone and the plot, then I wouldn&#039;t have a concern--aside from the fact that I just don&#039;t think it stacks up well next to the best books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6.  I don&#8217;t really have any complaints about the improbabilities of the plot in and of itself, but the tone of the book just doesn&#8217;t match it.  If I could reconcil the tone and the plot, then I wouldn&#8217;t have a concern&#8211;aside from the fact that I just don&#8217;t think it stacks up well next to the best books.</p>
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